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What does the election have to do with the OSU-Michigan rivalry. What was the point of this article? Does anyone really believe that OSU fans, team members, band members and coaching staff are treated any better in Ann Arbor? It's the biggest rivalry in sports--if you don't understand the treasured history and the depths to which people care about it, don't write about it.
What a load of Bull ;)
Suck it up you pansy! It goes both ways so don't try to make the other guy look like the evil one.
I wish I had the three minutes it took me to read this article back. What a waste of space. Here, I'll say the same thing with much less effort:
I'm grumpy because we haven't beat OSU in six years.
Sports rivalries are found everywhere in the world.
People shouldn't treat politics like sporting events.
Time for you to find another major, perhaps?
There is absolutely NO way in heck Michigan fans treat OSU fans as poorly as OSU fans treat Michigan fans down in Columbus. The idiots in Columbus fail to realize that it's A GAME. Never mind the University of Michigan is one of the most prestigious, acclaimed universities in the world, these idiots can't get past judging universities by their FOOTBALL TEAMS. The OSU fans will perpetually get branded as "white trash" if they continue this lack of class and idiocy.
GET A LIFE (Go Blue!)
As a former member of the OSUMB during the John Cooper era, I can attest to the fact that same bad antics described both in the article and the previous comments were demonstrated by U of M fans during my two trips to Ann Arbor for THE GAME. During my first visit, I walked away with over $15 in nickels and dimes that I picked up from the turf after being pelted with it while sitting on the sideline (I'm sure it wasn't a donation for my tuition payment). During both visits, we actually left the stadium with about 5:00 minutes left in the game so we would encounter less fans on our way back to the buses (remember, I said "John Cooper era"). We also experienced similar treatment in State College, West Lafayette, and Evanston by the home-team faithful. Bad antics by fans is universal. Not always acceptable, but universal nonetheless. Frankly, if you were offended by getting the bird flown toward you a couple of times, you need to grow up quick, because it gets a lot worse when you enter "the real world."
Although I have great respect for the accomplishments of the university, its research facilities, its sports teams, its students, and its alumni, I still "don't give a damn for the whole state of Michigan, I'm from OHIO!!"
As a Michigan student, it pains me that an article like this made it in the Daily. Whining about getting the finger at an OSU-UM game should not have a place in this paper. Also, as someone commented earlier, there is definitely a "my-first-college-essay" feel to it. This article makes Michigan students sound whiny, weak and overly sensitive, which the majority are not. The worst part: all these Ohio State fans commenting, the majority of what they're saying is correct. That does not happen very often, but when it does, it's very sad. Writer: grow up.
"I know they were joking and whatnot." What? Huh?
I really hope you are not an English major. What exactly does this sentence mean? It may be the worst single sentence I have read all year. I'm not even sure the tense is correct. Does this paper have an editor?
It also warms my caveman heart all the Michigan fans look down from their perches atop their ivory towers and heap their pity on the mouth-breathing, knuckle-draggers from the Buckeye state. With that in mind, I recall with great joy my first OSU-Michigan game when I was informed by a faithful Michigan fan that it was a long ride back to Columbus (it was 2001, Jim Tressel's first year). I replied it wouldn't be a long drive home for him since he in fact drove his house to the game. His response was to give me the finger. Yes, the "finger" of this article's "finger" fame.
This is the same kind of article i would write if my team was 1-8 over the last nine games with my rival!!!! Which people need to get a life?, the adults flipping the bird at the band or the person who's so mad about it that they need to write an article about it.
42-7!!!!! have a good day!
the negative comments really enforce the point of this article
Jeremy, what do you think of this type of behavior and why not include stories like this in your story?? You naively assume that your experience is specific only to OSU, to which I give you:
"There was rarely a moment when I, my friends or anyone in green wasn't the target of derogatory comments and actions," wrote St. Mary's editor Anneliese Woolford for the Notre Dame Observer, who attended the game. "By the time we entered the stadium, I had had enough of getting flicked off, being told to `F- the Irish,' getting pushed and other behavior I can't even mention in print."
Notre Dame junior Matt Mooney wrote a letter to the Observer reporting that Michigan fans had thrown unopened cans of beer at Irish fans.
Alumnus Brandon Griffith's letter to the Michigan Daily said Michigan fans pushed and spat on his brother, assaulted his girlfriend with water balloons and hit them with a steady stream of profanities.
"Nothing that I've seen or experienced at any other college could have prepared me" for the experience, he wrote.
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A Michigan Daily editorial was stronger: "The Notre Dame faithful [were] forced to endure the physically intimidating environment of hundreds of intoxicated partygoers intent on taunting and harassing anyone not wearing the maize and blue. These individuals attacked visiting fans, often verbally, but occasionally physically with bottles and food thrown through the air."
Wow!! Such rude behavior at the Ivy League wannabe school of the midwest? Unthinkable. I guess that even the mighty (lame) Maze and Blue are not above reproach.
Here is an opposing view from someone with a real world view.
http://www.michigandaily.com/content/kevin-wright-crowd-mixed-bag
Newsflash: It goes on everywhere, even in Ann Arbor.
wouldn't the dedication of a true fan extend beyond someone who comments only on their website?
ohio state fans get a bad rap because there is a larger fan base than the average university and they travel extremely well. other programs are no different when it comes to poor sportsmanship, do not think that your favorite university is incapable of having fans that give your team a bad rap. my guess is michigan is a little jaded over the past 5 years and poor on-field performance is leaving little else to be discussed. solely calling out osu misses the entire intention of the article.
Let me be brief: Good grief, grow up.
I'm always amused by the OSU 'fans' that find the time to waste on making inane comments on the UM Daily website.
If you are really a FAN, support your team on their website instead of demonstrating the intelligence level and limited writing abilities of OSU fans by visiting this site.
What is the intent of this article? Is it to make an awareness of the divide that competitive sports can cause, or is the article a call to action to subdue rivalries? If it is the latter, I do not believe you can remove rivalries from a sporting event without removing the entire event. It is a natural bi-product of the game. Along with making the event more interesting, it can exploit emotions, ignorance, as well as people's reactions of a game. These products are something that have to be accepted when a competitive event is hosted.
"Following Saturday's Ohio State-Texas match, several Buckeye fans stood on top of a car and urinated on Longhorns fans as they exited the stadium. When a Texas fan challenged them, the offending men shouted that 'You would treat us the same way in Austin.' A gray-bearded man in a Longhorns jacket responded 'Like hell we would!'"
-ESPN's account of the 2006 OSU-Texas game
I love a good rivalry like anyone else, but OSU fans are notorious around the country for classless antics like that. There are Buckeye fans who represent their school in a proud and positive way, but there are also way too many drunk and violent fools who give their school a bad name.
How pathetic has the state, school and atheltic department of Michigan become. To think that good natured Big Ten ribbing or, in the case of OSU-Michigan, not so good natured remarks are bad for society is a joke. It's people like this author who take competitive sports out schools because someone has to be a loser. The author talks about hoping that he grows out of being able to enjoy the OSU-Michigan rivalry, perhaps the author needs to grow up so he's not so easily offended. If OSU fans are flipping off kids then you can complain, but 18-22 year band members? Really, they are adults who relish the rivalry just as much as the OSU fans doing the flipping.
It seems the beatings that OSU has laid on Michigan and their fans has made them soft. What's next, Michigan Footballers crying on the field because they can't take the beating?
On another note, as an OSU fan I love Michigan's hire of Coach Slick Dick. He's doing more damage to the program than OSU could ever hope for.
As a former MMB member who had the pleasure of a baptism of fire in Ohio Stadium in 2004, I can't really say that the middle fingers, harsh words, threats, booing or other shit that I expected really bothered me.
What REALLY bothered me was when the snare drummer next to me was hit by a load of chaw spit, and after the game when 20,000 OSU fans cornered the MMB in the stadium for well over an hour. That's not necessarily 'good natured.'
I left that stadium absolutely convinced that collectively, OSU fans are the most degenerate morons out there. That being said, I have a lot of respect for OSU's football team, and Tressel (and yes that's hard for me to say, but after repeated ass kickings since 2001, how can I not?).
I experienced a similar event in 1984 when I was in the MMB. Not only were we doused with beer (ah the good old day), but glass bottles were thrown and when our car needed radiator fluid on our way out of town, the first two gas stations we stopped at refused to serve us due to the uniforms we were wearing.
OSU fans suck the big wazoo.
Oh no, you got flipped off AT THE GAME! What a travesty. How can American society possibly function when we are flipping each other off at sporting events? I submit that we ban all sporting events in the future to save people from such effrontery. Granted, this will eliminate one of the main reasons people ever hear your little band, but it is for the greater good since rivalry is apparently such an evil thing.
While crying and writing this article did you not stop to think that the Ohio State players,band members,and fans get the same treatment when we go to Ann Arbor.
Sounds to me like somebody else needs to grow up.
GO BUCKS
I have been to Ohio. The only good thing was leaving.
OSU SUCKS!
Sounds like your yet another sad michigan fan who is tired of being beat by OSU so you complain about our passionate fans who care about the outcome of the game
This article is stupendously naive, from the first-college-essay writing style ("rivalries exist in nearly every culture") to the finger-wagging at politics ("gee whiz, now why can't you stop being so gosh-darned negative and learn to work together") to the curious assumption that the abusive Ohio State fans actually attended Ohio State at some point in their lives. Look, no one has ever actually died as the result of the Michigan-OSU rivalry or any other rivalry in American sports. Last week, a 29 year-old Arsenal fan hung himself in despair after his team went down to Manchester United. The Arsenal fan lived IN KENYA. US rivalries are not even the same species as international soccer rivalries, and they don't need to be "justified" to any anguished post-adolescent just because his band experience was ruined by an OSU fan flipping him off.
Sorry you got your feelings hurt. What's it been oh about 6 months. But thanks for getting me revved up for college football, I had moved on...
How is writing an article bashing OSU fan, any less mature than flipping the bird at the Marching band, atleast OSU fans keep it to one day and one event, you managed to step up the poor sportsmanship by posting an article in a newspaper and on the internet about how imature OSU fan's behavior was.. when you just go home and write this, and atribute it to politics? like the two have ANYTHING to do with eachother I am confident that OSU fans know the difference between the two and their love for a game and tradtion does not shape thier views twords education and politics. This kind of slander is what fuels OSU fans, so I thank you for validating my hometown's team spirit, and look forward to your so called "demolishing" this season.
P.S Ann Arbor is still a ....
You can tell this letter is from an authentic OSU fan, incorrect punctuation, misspellings, poor grammar...
Hard to make your point when you don't take the time to use a spell checker. Losers.
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